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Rodheh wrote:Combo time! 6000mg kratom + 15mg valium.
Ahhh yeah, man. It's not hydro or oxy but it's close enough.
Now is a good time for me to say fuck weed! Not you guys, you guys are fine, but stoners who smoke constantly. Their condescending "my drug is the cure to everything" attitude. Their fucking mindless drabble and short term memories. I wish people knew how to HANDLE their drugs.
It's bad enough I can't enjoy the one thing almost everybody here seems to enjoy but it's even worse that I often have to watch them act like zombies on it. Most overrated psychoactive substance on the planet earth - any "opening of the third eye" or ego loss that might be achieved on cannabis can be achieved a lot more effectively with either a muscimol or psilocybin based magic mushroom...hell, even some fucking ambien, it's basically muscimol in pill form.
Never had a single good experience on weed and 6 out of the 12 times I had to take a downer just to stop the paranoia. Next stoner I meet in person offers me weed and I decline it and he says I "need some more weed in my life" is getting a brick thrown through something that he owns made of glass. Sick of it online and I'm sick of it in Maricopa, where weed has apparently been the county's DoC for a long time.
TaoTapeTao wrote:Though I know those people pretty well (a lot of them are close friends and you're just being a judgemental fellow for writing them off as 'fucking mindless', most of them are great people and they get stoned and hang out but they still have day jobs and go to classes and function like everyone else, they're just less stressed and occasionally more soft spoken)
TaoTapeTao wrote:I have many friends who smoke weed constantly, and I mean non-stop every forty minutes or so and they're just as active as anyone else. One of my best friends does maybe two or three dabs every hour and then rips some bong after AND drinks tincture and I can confidently say is more active and interesting than most people combined. He's incredibly intelligent (he does forget shit sometimes like a stoner will) and crazy social and climbs mountains and kayaks and travels constantly and has a job all while selling copious drugs as well. So if that's not a fantastic case study to disprove your over generalized nonsense then I don't know what is.
TaoTapeTao wrote:Also, contradiction: You say I WISH PEOPLE KNEW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR DRUGS yet you also say you have to take a downer every time you smoke because you get too paranoid. Lol wut.
Yeah That's Right wrote:I can definitely understand a dislike of sensationalist stoner culture, though I think this is excessive scorn directed at a certain stereotype and lacks an understanding at some level. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy their substance of choice without having to endure judgement or condescension based on another's own preference.
Rodheh wrote:Combo time! 6000mg kratom + 15mg valium.
Ahhh yeah, man. It's not hydro or oxy but it's close enough.
Now is a good time for me to say fuck weed! Not you guys, you guys are fine, but stoners who smoke constantly. Their condescending "my drug is the cure to everything" attitude. Their fucking mindless drabble and short term memories. I wish people knew how to HANDLE their drugs.
It's bad enough I can't enjoy the one thing almost everybody here seems to enjoy but it's even worse that I often have to watch them act like zombies on it. Most overrated psychoactive substance on the planet earth - any "opening of the third eye" or ego loss that might be achieved on cannabis can be achieved a lot more effectively with either a muscimol or psilocybin based magic mushroom...hell, even some fucking ambien, it's basically muscimol in pill form.
Never had a single good experience on weed and 6 out of the 12 times I had to take a downer just to stop the paranoia. Next stoner I meet in person offers me weed and I decline it and he says I "need some more weed in my life" is getting a brick thrown through something that he owns made of glass. Sick of it online and I'm sick of it in Maricopa, where weed has apparently been the county's DoC for a long time.
naicob wrote:Rodheh wrote:Combo time! 6000mg kratom + 15mg valium.
Ahhh yeah, man. It's not hydro or oxy but it's close enough.
Now is a good time for me to say fuck weed! Not you guys, you guys are fine, but stoners who smoke constantly. Their condescending "my drug is the cure to everything" attitude. Their fucking mindless drabble and short term memories. I wish people knew how to HANDLE their drugs.
It's bad enough I can't enjoy the one thing almost everybody here seems to enjoy but it's even worse that I often have to watch them act like zombies on it. Most overrated psychoactive substance on the planet earth - any "opening of the third eye" or ego loss that might be achieved on cannabis can be achieved a lot more effectively with either a muscimol or psilocybin based magic mushroom...hell, even some fucking ambien, it's basically muscimol in pill form.
Never had a single good experience on weed and 6 out of the 12 times I had to take a downer just to stop the paranoia. Next stoner I meet in person offers me weed and I decline it and he says I "need some more weed in my life" is getting a brick thrown through something that he owns made of glass. Sick of it online and I'm sick of it in Maricopa, where weed has apparently been the county's DoC for a long time.
The resident 12 year old drug expert has spoken.
Amo Bishop Roden wrote:All this conflict... I just wanna get high, maybe eat some pretzel sticks. Anyone in?
Rodheh wrote:naicob wrote:Rodheh wrote:Combo time! 6000mg kratom + 15mg valium.
Ahhh yeah, man. It's not hydro or oxy but it's close enough.
Now is a good time for me to say fuck weed! Not you guys, you guys are fine, but stoners who smoke constantly. Their condescending "my drug is the cure to everything" attitude. Their fucking mindless drabble and short term memories. I wish people knew how to HANDLE their drugs.
It's bad enough I can't enjoy the one thing almost everybody here seems to enjoy but it's even worse that I often have to watch them act like zombies on it. Most overrated psychoactive substance on the planet earth - any "opening of the third eye" or ego loss that might be achieved on cannabis can be achieved a lot more effectively with either a muscimol or psilocybin based magic mushroom...hell, even some fucking ambien, it's basically muscimol in pill form.
Never had a single good experience on weed and 6 out of the 12 times I had to take a downer just to stop the paranoia. Next stoner I meet in person offers me weed and I decline it and he says I "need some more weed in my life" is getting a brick thrown through something that he owns made of glass. Sick of it online and I'm sick of it in Maricopa, where weed has apparently been the county's DoC for a long time.
The resident 12 year old drug expert has spoken.
Ah, naicob. We trade one troll for another.
All of these responses reeks of "hey, stop disliking what I like!". Got it with Tomorrow's Harvest, getting it with this. No surprises whatsoever.
Rodheh wrote:TaoTapeTao wrote:Though I know those people pretty well (a lot of them are close friends and you're just being a judgemental fellow for writing them off as 'fucking mindless', most of them are great people and they get stoned and hang out but they still have day jobs and go to classes and function like everyone else, they're just less stressed and occasionally more soft spoken)
We are not talking about the same people. There is nobody in this state that smokes weed constantly (I mean at least three or four times a day, every day) I have ever seen (and I've seen A LOT of them in Maricopa county, god damn, especially in Tempe) that this description is applicable to.TaoTapeTao wrote:I have many friends who smoke weed constantly, and I mean non-stop every forty minutes or so and they're just as active as anyone else. One of my best friends does maybe two or three dabs every hour and then rips some bong after AND drinks tincture and I can confidently say is more active and interesting than most people combined. He's incredibly intelligent (he does forget shit sometimes like a stoner will) and crazy social and climbs mountains and kayaks and travels constantly and has a job all while selling copious drugs as well. So if that's not a fantastic case study to disprove your over generalized nonsense then I don't know what is.
Again, we're obviously not talking about the same people.
Also I'd have to meet your friend if I were to make a definite statement.
Furthermore, I'm not sure what the "active" comment is about. I never implied stoners were lazy. There's a cliche that has been beaten to death. My comment is more regarding external appearance.TaoTapeTao wrote:Also, contradiction: You say I WISH PEOPLE KNEW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR DRUGS yet you also say you have to take a downer every time you smoke because you get too paranoid. Lol wut.
That's not a contradiction at all. Weed is not my kind of drug. I've tried it probably about 12 times in total and I've taken the downers on many of those occasions to keep myself from feeling awful. I was speaking in regards to those who DO enjoy weed - handle properly, i.e. don't let yourself become permafried like my cousin by smoking constantly, all day, every day. The same philosophy of handling your drugs goes for every other sort of drug, there's smart ways to use them and dumb ways to use them. Now, there's nothing wrong with smoking a bit of weed and taking some ambien to go with it, in fact on Bluelight it's a common combo and it's totally safe. I see no contradiction.
TaoTapeTao wrote:
There's nothing wrong with someone getting stoned and spacing out or laughing a lot. If anything it's healthy
TaoTapeTao wrote:Rodheh wrote:TaoTapeTao wrote:Though I know those people pretty well (a lot of them are close friends and you're just being a judgemental fellow for writing them off as 'fucking mindless', most of them are great people and they get stoned and hang out but they still have day jobs and go to classes and function like everyone else, they're just less stressed and occasionally more soft spoken)
We are not talking about the same people. There is nobody in this state that smokes weed constantly (I mean at least three or four times a day, every day) I have ever seen (and I've seen A LOT of them in Maricopa county, god damn, especially in Tempe) that this description is applicable to.TaoTapeTao wrote:I have many friends who smoke weed constantly, and I mean non-stop every forty minutes or so and they're just as active as anyone else. One of my best friends does maybe two or three dabs every hour and then rips some bong after AND drinks tincture and I can confidently say is more active and interesting than most people combined. He's incredibly intelligent (he does forget shit sometimes like a stoner will) and crazy social and climbs mountains and kayaks and travels constantly and has a job all while selling copious drugs as well. So if that's not a fantastic case study to disprove your over generalized nonsense then I don't know what is.
Again, we're obviously not talking about the same people.
Also I'd have to meet your friend if I were to make a definite statement.
Furthermore, I'm not sure what the "active" comment is about. I never implied stoners were lazy. There's a cliche that has been beaten to death. My comment is more regarding external appearance.TaoTapeTao wrote:Also, contradiction: You say I WISH PEOPLE KNEW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR DRUGS yet you also say you have to take a downer every time you smoke because you get too paranoid. Lol wut.
That's not a contradiction at all. Weed is not my kind of drug. I've tried it probably about 12 times in total and I've taken the downers on many of those occasions to keep myself from feeling awful. I was speaking in regards to those who DO enjoy weed - handle properly, i.e. don't let yourself become permafried like my cousin by smoking constantly, all day, every day. The same philosophy of handling your drugs goes for every other sort of drug, there's smart ways to use them and dumb ways to use them. Now, there's nothing wrong with smoking a bit of weed and taking some ambien to go with it, in fact on Bluelight it's a common combo and it's totally safe. I see no contradiction.
1. You started by generalizing that stoners were zombies. I retorted by examples that contradicted your generalization. You change the argument to say that you 'were talking about different types of people' but you never made that distinction. You implied that essentially everyone was like that.
2. If you're going to hate on the way someone looks or appears that's just downright close minded, irrelevant to drugs and useless.
3. The contradiction is still there because it's irrelevant whether you DO enjoy it or not, there is still a right and a wrong and if you're reacting that way then you can't 'handle' the drug. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's the fact. If not you wouldn't have to take the downers. And please, someone can smoke weed constantly and be totally okay. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
And now to revert to your "I don't like what he's saying comment"- that's just a dirty way of asserting that you're right and everyone else is wrong. I'm retorting because you make these lofty bullshit claims and feel the need to introduce logic and reason that plainly says otherwise. Frankly I'm neutral to weed, sometimes I love smoking it, sometimes I don't care. So I'm not offended, just bothered that you think your words are verbatim and objectively right, or at least that you imply this.
EDIT: One last thing. There's nothing wrong with someone getting stoned and spacing out or laughing a lot. If anything it's healthy and I don't understand why you'd get mad at or write off someone who wants to do that. That almost has nothing to do with weed either..
My suggestion is don't expect to demonstrate or express your opinion without getting an opposite and equal reaction ever. You react almost like it's wrong that people defend a counter point.
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